My son is 13 and I would describe him as "medium build", probably around 5'4" 125lb....ish. He is playing 13u right now and I am just looking ahead to 14u and high school ball, so BBCOR is whats ahead.
I bought him a -5 VELO and a -5 Combat G3 for this year. He really likes the Combat, but doesn't swing the Velo. I think he does not like the fat handle/grip on the Velo, but he has only swung it at maybe 2 practices.
I want to progress his transition to swinging BBCOR and get him something that has some pop at BBCOR. I have seen a bunch of kids swinging BBCOR that seem dead. Are ALL BBCOR bats dead like that?
Any suggestions for a balanced swinging BBCOR that has pop?
we have a few 31/28 BBCOR bats ; they all hit fairly well
at the top of the list - S1, XL1, and Voodoo
kid will be trying a Mako before end of month ; Mako is a popular 31/28 bat in our area ; kids hit very well with it
grab a BBCOR S1 for your kid to try ; you might be surprised at how well he swings and hits with it
my kid likes the feel of the 31/28 B4 Portent Combat and might prefer the feel over the feel of the S1 - but the Combat does not have the same pop as the S1
however, the S1 is well used ; the Combat is in almost new condition
Marucci CAT6 is another balanced one to consider, especially for the price.
Ok, so the S1 outperforms the Combat? Is that the same for the G3?
How is the Rawlings Trio, RIp-It Air, or the New Combat Maxum? Just curious more than anything. I am all about saving a buck, so last years models are great in my book too!
Last edited by djtech2k; 06-08-2015 at 08:20 PM.
I'm going to say something that some people may not want to hear (especially on a bat forum)... BBCOR bats are going to be similar to wood bats, in that the results that you get out of them will be highly dependent on the quality and speed of the swing more so than finding the 'magic hot bat'.
To some extent the same thing can be said with all bats (LL and SL/BB included), but with no drop weight options and the strict performance standards of BBCOR, it's generally the time when boys (and their dads) have to come to the realization that the pendulum has swung from finding the magic bat to getting swing mechanics dialed in.
BBCOR is completely different than youth and senior league bats.
From what I have seen and read the performance spread between bats is minimal. Preference is a bigger factor than performance when it comes to BBCOR. What feels good.
With that said my older 13U is swinging an 31" XL1 -5 when aloud and a 31" XL1 -3 BBCOR during practice and when required.
Per the eye test and conversation his swing speed is pretty consistent between the two. The XL1 BBCOR is much more balanced than the XL1 senior league. The senior league has an EASY 30ft advantage on well hit balls.
30ft is the difference of a routine fly ball compared to over the head of the OF and actually two HR's on the big field during games.
He has one hopped the big fence with BBCOR during BP but for now BBCOR fly balls are outs.
I think most understand this, that with these bats it's more about feel and what kind of balance the player does well with. That said, there will always be some bats that stand out, more popular, for whatever reason, which may be aesthetic or something else.
Originally Posted by hands in
We have a couple BBCOR now, and I plan to test some exit speeds with my son, just to see and compare that number with how and what he feels. I am not going to tell him the number, just ask him to hit and let me know how things feel. I think I'll compare that to the -5 bats he as to see. I know it's unscientific, but interesting nonetheless.
That sounds like a solid plan. My son was 11 y.o. when I got him his first BBCOR to work with, I never told him that BBCOR's weren't supposed to be as hot as his USSSA bats, and that it just weighed a little more (about the same as the LS M9, that he'd already been working with). He thought it was a cool bat and hit well with it in his work, and has even talked about being psyched about when the time comes to switch over to BBCOR.
Originally Posted by FrankJP302
I think quite a bit of the successful transition to BBCOR has to do with early preparation, solid mechanics, and presenting the transition to the hitter in a positive way. Neg a kid out by telling him how heavy and dead BBCOR bats are, and it's unlikely that the results will be good.
I do agree that the bat doesnt make the hitter, the person swinging the bat makes it. I have heard that BBCOR is similar to dead wood and have seen that true in many cases. My whole point in posting is to leverage any experience others may have with the performance or swing balance/weight different bats may have.
I know every hitter is different, but generally a good coach or player will know when a bat is end-loaded and heavy to swing versus balanced and light swinging. I did not expect a "hot bat" thread on BBCOR, but experience from others can help guide you to making a more educated decision. My son will work with BBCOR all winter to prepare for next year, but I'd like to start shopping now for winter and next year buying a BBCOR.